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The study of biochemistry in horses encompasses the chemical processes and substances that occur within equine organisms. This field investigates the molecular interactions and pathways that are fundamental to horse physiology, including metabolism, enzyme activity, and genetic expression. Key areas of interest include the examination of metabolic disorders, nutrient absorption, and the biochemical basis of muscle function and energy production. Researchers utilize biochemical analysis to understand health and disease mechanisms in horses, contributing to the development of diagnostic tools and therapeutic strategies. This page gathers peer-reviewed studies and scholarly articles that explore various biochemical processes and their implications for equine health and performance.
Plasma acylcarnitine and fatty acid profiles during exercise and training in Standardbreds.
American journal of veterinary research    November 5, 2008   Volume 69, Issue 11 1469-1475 doi: 10.2460/ajvr.69.11.1469
Westermann CM, Dorland B, de Sain-van der Velden MG, Wijnberg ID, Van Breda E, De Graaf-Roelfsema E, Keizer HA, Van der Kolk JH.To evaluate alterations in skeletal muscle carnitine metabolism during exercise and training by measuring changes in plasma acylcarnitine concentrations in Standardbreds. Methods: 10 Standardbred geldings with a mean +/- SD age of 20 +/- 2 months and weight of 384 +/- 42 kg. Methods: In a 32-week longitudinal study, training on a treadmill was divided into 4 phases as follows: phase 1, acclimatization for 4 weeks; phase 2, 18 weeks with alternating endurance and high-intensity exercise training; phase 3, increased training volume and intensity for another 6 weeks; and phase 4, deconditioning f...
Assessment of platelet growth factors in supernatants from rehydrated freeze-dried equine platelets and their effects on fibroblasts in vitro.
American journal of veterinary research    November 5, 2008   Volume 69, Issue 11 1512-1519 doi: 10.2460/ajvr.69.11.1512
Tablin F, Walker NJ, Hogle SE, Pratt SM, Norris JW.To determine whether platelet growth factors are preserved in supernatants obtained from rehydrated trehalose-stabilized, freeze-dried (lyophilized) equine platelets and whether those growth factors stimulate fibroblast proliferation and migration and enhance fibroblast-associated contraction in a collagen gel assay. Methods: 6 clinically normal adult horses. Methods: Blood samples were obtained from 6 horses, and washed platelets were prepared via differential centrifugation. Washed platelets were freeze-dried in a physiologic buffer with a mixture of trehalose and polyethylene glycol 4000. R...
In vitro analysis of expression vectors for DNA vaccination of horses: the effect of a Kozak sequence.
Acta veterinaria Scandinavica    November 4, 2008   Volume 50, Issue 1 44 doi: 10.1186/1751-0147-50-44
Olafsdóttir G, Svansson V, Ingvarsson S, Marti E, Torsteinsdóttir S.One of the prerequisite for developing DNA vaccines for horses are vectors that are efficiently expressed in horse cells. We have analysed the ectopic expression of the human serum albumin gene in primary horse cells from different tissues. The vectors used are of pcDNA and pUC origin and include the cytomegalovirus (CMV) promoter. The pUC vectors contain CMV intron A whereas the pcDNA vectors do not. Insertion of intron A diminished the expression from the pcDNA vectors whereas insertion of a Kozak sequence upstream of the gene in two types of pUC vectors increased significantly the in vitro ...
Development of one vs multiple ovulatory follicles and associated systemic hormone concentrations in mares.
Reproduction in domestic animals = Zuchthygiene    October 23, 2008   Volume 44, Issue 3 441-449 doi: 10.1111/j.1439-0531.2008.01109.x
Ginther OJ, Jacob JC, Gastal MO, Gastal EL, Beg MA.Ablation of follicles > or = 6 mm in diameter and treatment with PGF2alpha 10 days after ovulation were used to induce the development of ovulatory waves. Comparisons were made between induced waves with one (33 waves, 72%) and multiple (13 waves, 28%) ovulatory follicles. Diameter deviation was defined as the separation of follicles into dominant and subordinate categories. Multiple ovulatory follicles were preceded by more (p or = 20 mm at the beginning of deviation, higher LH preceding deviation (approached significance, p < 0.08), lower (p < 0.05) concentrations of FSH on the day...
Development of a bead-based multiplex assay for simultaneous quantification of cytokines in horses.
Veterinary immunology and immunopathology    October 18, 2008   Volume 127, Issue 3-4 242-248 doi: 10.1016/j.vetimm.2008.10.313
Wagner B, Freer H.The detection and quantification of equine cytokines has been hampered by the lack of antibodies for many years. With the development of antibody pairs for equine cytokines during the past years, the quantification of these essential regulators of the immune response became possible. After being successfully tested by enzyme-linked immunosorbent assays (ELISA), three of these anti-cytokine reagents were used here to establish the first cytokine multiplex assay for equine IL-4, IL-10 and IFN-alpha. A fluorescent bead-based system was used as matrix for this assay that allows the simultaneous de...
Differing in vitro biology of equine, ovine, porcine and human articular chondrocytes derived from the knee joint: an immunomorphological study.
Histochemistry and cell biology    October 7, 2008   Volume 131, Issue 2 219-229 doi: 10.1007/s00418-008-0516-6
Schulze-Tanzil G, Müller RD, Kohl B, Schneider N, Ertel W, Ipaktchi K, Hünigen H, Gemeinhardt O, Stark R, John T.For lack of sufficient human cartilage donors, chondrocytes isolated from various animal species are used for cartilage tissue engineering. The present study was undertaken to compare key features of cultured large animal and human articular chondrocytes of the knee joint. Primary chondrocytes were isolated from human, porcine, ovine and equine full thickness knee joint cartilage and investigated flow cytometrically for their proliferation rate. Synthesis of extracellular matrix proteins collagen type II, cartilage proteoglycans, collagen type I, fibronectin and cytoskeletal organization were ...
(Over)training effects on quantitative electromyography and muscle enzyme activities in standardbred horses.
Journal of applied physiology (Bethesda, Md. : 1985)    October 2, 2008   Volume 105, Issue 6 1746-1753 doi: 10.1152/japplphysiol.01272.2007
Wijnberg ID, van Dam KG, Graaf-Roelfsema Ed, Keizer HA, van Ginneken MM, Barneveld A, Breda Ev, van der Kolk JH.Too intensive training may lead to overreaching or overtraining. To study whether quantitative needle electromyography (QEMG) is more sensitive to detect training (mal)adaptation than muscle enzyme activities, 12 standardbred geldings trained for 32 wk in age-, breed-, and sex-matched fixed pairs. After a habituation and normal training (NT) phase (phases 1 and 2, 4 and 18 wk, respectively), with increasing intensity and duration and frequency of training sessions, an intensified training (IT) group (phase 3, 6 wk) and a control group (which continued training as in the last week of phase 2) w...
Determination of acyclovir in horse plasma and body fluids by high-performance liquid chromatography combined with fluorescence detection and heated electrospray ionization tandem mass spectrometry.
Biomedical chromatography : BMC    October 1, 2008   Volume 23, Issue 2 132-140 doi: 10.1002/bmc.1093
Maes A, Garré B, Desmet N, van der Meulen K, Nauwynck H, De Backer P, Croubels S.Two methods are presented for the determination of 'respectively' the plasma protein unbound and total concentration of acyclovir in horse plasma and body fluids: first, a liquid-liquid extraction was performed on plasma, combined with HPLC-fluorescence detection for the total plasma concentration; second a more sensitive method using high-performance liquid chromatography combined with heated electrospray ionization tandem mass spectrometry (LC-HESI-MS/MS) was described for plasma and for body fluids analysis. To obtain the unbound concentration of acyclovir in plasma, a simple deproteinizati...
Alpha-tocopherol protects against oxidative damage to lipids of the rod outer segments of the equine retina.
Veterinary journal (London, England : 1997)    October 1, 2008   Volume 182, Issue 3 463-468 doi: 10.1016/j.tvjl.2008.08.008
Terrasa AM, Guajardo MH, Marra CA, Zapata G.Oxidative stress is a possible risk factor for eye diseases. Lipid peroxidation is one of the major events induced by oxidative stress and is particularly active in polyunsaturated fatty acid (PUFA)-rich biomembranes. This work evaluated endogenous lipid antioxidants, in vitro non-enzymatic lipid peroxidation of rod outer segment membranes (ROS), the fatty acid composition during oxidative damage of total lipids from equine retina and ROS, and the protective action of alpha-tocopherol (alpha-Toc). The major lipid soluble antioxidant was alpha-Toc followed by retinoids and carotenoids. The reti...
Effect of a single dose of dexamethasone on glucose homeostasis in healthy horses by using the combined intravenous glucose and insulin test.
Journal of animal science    September 26, 2008   Volume 87, Issue 1 131-135 doi: 10.2527/jas.2008-1179
Haffner JC, Eiler H, Hoffman RM, Fecteau KA, Oliver JW.Sustained dexamethasone administration to horses results in insulin resistance, which may predispose them to laminitis. A single dose of dexamethasone is commonly used as a diagnostic aid, yet the effect of a single dose of dexamethasone on glucose homeostasis in horses is not well defined. The objective of this study was to characterize the change in glucose dynamics over time in response to a single dose of dexamethasone. A combined glucose-insulin tolerance test (CGIT) was performed on 6 adult geldings before and at 2, 24, and 72 h postdexamethasone (40 microg/kg of BW, i.v.); a minimum of ...
Myonuclear domain size and myosin isoform expression in muscle fibres from mammals representing a 100,000-fold difference in body size.
Experimental physiology    September 26, 2008   Volume 94, Issue 1 117-129 doi: 10.1113/expphysiol.2008.043877
Liu JX, Höglund AS, Karlsson P, Lindblad J, Qaisar R, Aare S, Bengtsson E, Larsson L.This comparative study of myonuclear domain (MND) size in mammalian species representing a 100,000-fold difference in body mass, ranging from 25 g to 2500 kg, was undertaken to improve our understanding of myonuclear organization in skeletal muscle fibres. Myonuclear domain size was calculated from three-dimensional reconstructions in a total of 235 single muscle fibre segments at a fixed sarcomere length. Irrespective of species, the largest MND size was observed in muscle fibres expressing fast myosin heavy chain (MyHC) isoforms, but in the two smallest mammalian species studied (mouse and r...
Identification of recombinant equine growth hormone in horse plasma by LC-MS/MS: a confirmatory analysis in doping control.
Analytical chemistry    September 25, 2008   Volume 80, Issue 21 8340-8347 doi: 10.1021/ac801234f
Bailly-Chouriberry L, Pinel G, Garcia P, Popot MA, Le Bizec B, Bonnaire Y.Equine growth hormone (eGH) has been available since 1998 as an approved drug (EquiGen-5, Bresagen) containing recombinant eGH (reGH). It is suspected of being illegally administered to racehorses in order to improve physical performance and to speed-up wound healing. Thus it may be considered a doping agent which would require a sensitive and reliable method of identification and confirmation in order to regulate its use in racehorses. reGH differs from the native eGH by an additional methionine at the N-terminal (met-eGH) and has never been unambiguously detected in any type of biological ma...
A GYS1 gene mutation is highly associated with polysaccharide storage myopathy in Cob Normand draught horses.
Animal genetics    September 24, 2008   Volume 40, Issue 1 94-96 doi: 10.1111/j.1365-2052.2008.01778.x
Herszberg B, McCue ME, Larcher T, Mata X, Vaiman A, Chaffaux S, Chérel Y, Valberg SJ, Mickelson JR, Guérin G.Glycogen storage diseases or glycogenoses are inherited diseases caused by abnormalities of enzymes that regulate the synthesis or degradation of glycogen. Deleterious mutations in many genes of the glyco(geno)lytic or the glycogenesis pathways can potentially cause a glycogenosis, and currently mutations in fourteen different genes are known to cause animal or human glycogenoses, resulting in myopathies and/or hepatic disorders. The genetic bases of two forms of glycogenosis are currently known in horses. A fatal neonatal polysystemic type IV glycogenosis, inherited recessively in affected Qu...
Equine herpesvirus 1 entry via endocytosis is facilitated by alphaV integrins and an RSD motif in glycoprotein D.
Journal of virology    September 24, 2008   Volume 82, Issue 23 11859-11868 doi: 10.1128/JVI.00868-08
Van de Walle GR, Peters ST, VanderVen BC, O'Callaghan DJ, Osterrieder N.Equine herpesvirus 1 (EHV-1) is a member of the Alphaherpesvirinae, and its broad tissue tropism suggests that EHV-1 may use multiple receptors to initiate virus entry. EHV-1 entry was thought to occur exclusively through fusion at the plasma membrane, but recently entry via the endocytic/phagocytic pathway was reported for Chinese hamster ovary cells (CHO-K1 cells). Here we show that cellular integrins, and more specifically those recognizing RGD motifs such as alphaVbeta5, are important during the early steps of EHV-1 entry via endocytosis in CHO-K1 cells. Moreover, mutational analysis revea...
Effect of selenium source and dose on selenium status of mature horses.
Journal of animal science    September 12, 2008   Volume 87, Issue 1 167-178 doi: 10.2527/jas.2007-0746
Calamari L, Ferrari A, Bertin G.This study was conducted to determine the effects of either dietary Se source or dose on the Se status of horses. Twenty-five mature horses were blocked by BW and randomly allocated to 1 of 5 dietary treatments that comprised the same basal diet that differed only in Se source or dose. Treatments were as follows: negative control (0.085 mg of Se/kg of DM), 3 different dietary concentrations of supplemental organic Se (Se yeast; 0.2, 0.3, and 0.4 mg of total Se/kg of DM), and positive control (0.3 mg of total Se/kg of DM) supplemented with Na selenite. Horses initially received the control diet...
Quantification of 19-nortestosterone sulphate and boldenone sulphate in urine from male horses using liquid chromatography/tandem mass spectrometry.
Rapid communications in mass spectrometry : RCM    September 9, 2008   Volume 22, Issue 19 2999-3007 doi: 10.1002/rcm.3698
Grace PB, Drake EC, Teale P, Houghton E.Following administration of the anabolic steroid 19-nortestosterone or its esters to the horse, a major urinary metabolite is 19-nortestosterone-17beta-sulphate. The detection of 19-nortestosterone in urine from untreated animals has led to it being considered a naturally occurring steroid in the male horse. Recently, we have demonstrated that the majority of the 19-nortestosterone found in extracts of 'normal' urine from male horses arises as an artefact through decarboxylation of the 19-carboxylic acid of testosterone. The aim of this investigation was to establish if direct analysis of 19-n...
Effects of methylprednisolone acetate and glucosamine on proteoglycan production by equine chondrocytes in vitro.
American journal of veterinary research    September 4, 2008   Volume 69, Issue 9 1123-1128 doi: 10.2460/ajvr.69.9.1123
Byron CR, Benson BM, Stewart AA, Pondenis HC.To evaluate the effects of methylprednisolone acetate (MPA) on proteoglycan production by equine chondrocytes and to investigate whether glucosamine hydrochloride modulates these effects at clinically relevant concentrations. Methods: Articular cartilage with normal gross appearance from metacarpophalangeal and metatarsophalangeal joints of 8 horses (1 to 10 years of age). Methods: In vitro chondrocyte pellets were pretreated with glucosamine (0, 1, 10, and 100 microg/mL) for 48 hours and exposed to MPA (0, 0.05, and 0.5 mg/mL) for 24 hours. Pellets and media were assayed for proteoglycan prod...
Analysis of major proteins and fat fractions associated with mare’s milk fat globules.
Molecular nutrition & food research    August 30, 2008   Volume 52, Issue 12 1448-1456 doi: 10.1002/mnfr.200700311
Barello C, Garoffo LP, Montorfano G, Zava S, Berra B, Conti A, Giuffrida MG.Although several studies have aimed to identify mare's milk proteins, only the major whey proteins and some caseins have yet been characterized. Incomplete sequencing of the equine genome and the difficulty of recovering highly hydrophobic proteins mean that little is known to date about the proteins associated with milk fat globules, which have been shown to play an important role in newborns' defense mechanisms. The fat fraction, in particular the distribution of unsaturated fatty acids, has been more extensively studied, but complex lipids are only partially elucidated. This study reports a...
Equine placenta expresses glutamine synthetase.
Veterinary research communications    August 23, 2008   Volume 33, Issue 2 175-182 doi: 10.1007/s11259-008-9167-2
Manso Filho HC, Costa HE, Wu G, McKeever KH, Watford M.In most mammalian species the developing fetus utilizes large amounts of glutamine derived both from the maternal circulation and synthesized de novo in the placenta. The present study was designed to determine the role of the placenta in glutamine synthesis in the horse. The placentae from eight Standardbred mares were sampled immediately after parturition together with additional tissues obtained at necropsy from three Standbred mares during diestrous. Glutamine synthetase protein was detectable in the non-pregnant horn of the placenta in amounts similar to those seen in gluteus muscle, but ...
Growth hormone secretion in relation to plasma lactate and glucose concentrations during a maximal treadmill exercise test in horses.
Veterinary research communications    August 9, 2008   Volume 32 Suppl 1 S111-S113 doi: 10.1007/s11259-008-9104-4
Borromeo V, Ferrucci F, Zucca E, Berrini A, Secchi C.No abstract available
Proteins involved in calcium homeostasis expressed in horse cardiomyocytes.
Veterinary research communications    August 8, 2008   Volume 32 Suppl 1 S159-S162 doi: 10.1007/s11259-008-9111-5
Mascarello F, Sharova E, Patruno M, Maccatrozzo L, Damiani E, Sacchetto R.No abstract available
Quantitative intradermal terbutaline sweat test in horses.
Equine veterinary journal    August 8, 2008   Volume 40, Issue 5 518-520 doi: 10.2746/042516408X322409
MacKay RJ.The aim of the current study was to quantify sweating responses to intradermal terbutaline in normal horses. Seven Thoroughbred horses were used. Terbutaline (10-fold dilutions from 1000-0.001 mg/l) and a saline control were injected intradermally (0.1 ml/site) and sweat collected for 30 min into absorbent pads taped over each injection site. Tests were performed monthly for 11 successive months and temperature, relative humidity and dewpoint were measured at the time of testing. There was no significant effect (P<or=0.05) of environmental variables or time of year on sweat responses at any...
Development of a liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry method for an euthanasic veterinarian drug: Tanax.
Journal of pharmaceutical and biomedical analysis    August 8, 2008   Volume 48, Issue 3 902-908 doi: 10.1016/j.jpba.2008.07.024
Fidani M, Gamberini MC, Pasello E, Palazzoli F, Dimasi T, Montana M.A development of a rapid and sensitive LC-MS/MS method for the simultaneous detection of active ingredients of the euthanasic veterinarian drug Tanax mixture is described. The method proposed, with a retention time of few minutes (6 min) was developed for an equine serum sample with solid-phase extraction (S.P.E). This S.P.E. procedure has been revealed useful for the determination of very low concentrations of Tanax analytes (0.05-1 ng/ml). The method was validated in terms of specificity/selectivity, sensitivity, recovery and precision.
Fat content and fatty acids profile of colostrum and milk of primitive Konik horses ( Equus caballus gmelini Ant.) during six months of lactation.
The Journal of dairy research    August 6, 2008   Volume 75, Issue 3 302-309 doi: 10.1017/S0022029908003336
Pikul J, Wójtowski J, Danków R, Kuczyńska B, Lojek J.The effect of the stage of lactation, the number of foals and age of the mare on changes in the fat content and fatty acid composition of colostrum and milk of primitive Konik horses was investigated. Colostrum and milk samples from 12 lactating mares were collected at the beginning of lactation, on the days 1 and 2 after foaling and then, starting from the first month of lactation, at 4-week intervals up to the sixth month of lactation. Significant differences were observed in fat content as well as the composition of some analysed fatty acids between colostrum and milk of mares of the Konik ...
Actions of a nitric oxide donor on prostaglandin production and angiogenic activity in the equine endometrium.
Reproduction, fertility, and development    August 2, 2008   Volume 20, Issue 6 674-683 doi: 10.1071/rd08015
Roberto da Costa RP, Costa AS, Korzekwa AJ, Platek R, Siemieniuch M, Galvão A, Redmer DA, Silva JR, Skarzynski DJ, Ferreira-Dias G.Nitric oxide (NO) plays an important role in prostaglandin secretion and angiogenesis in the reproductive system. In the present study, the roles of the NO donor spermine NONOate and tumour necrosis factor-alpha (TNF; as a positive control) in prostaglandin production and angiogenic activity of equine endometria during the oestrous cycle were evaluated. In addition, the correlation between NO production and the expression of key prostaglandin synthase proteins was determined. The protein expression of prostaglandin F synthase (PGFS) increased in early and mid-luteal stages, whereas that of pro...
Proteins associated with the early intrauterine equine conceptus.
Reproduction in domestic animals = Zuchthygiene    July 25, 2008   Volume 43 Suppl 2 232-237 doi: 10.1111/j.1439-0531.2008.01167.x
Hayes MA, Quinn BA, Keirstead ND, Katavolos P, Waelchli RO, Betteridge KJ.A critical period of early gestation in the mare involves the immobilization (fixation) of the encapsulated conceptus at around days 16-17. We compared the major proteins in the normal equine embryonic capsule and endometrial secretions around the period of fixation with those from pregnancies in the process of termination induced by administration of an analogue of prostaglandin F(2 alpha) (PGF(2 alpha)). Uterocalin and beta(2)-microglobulin (beta(2)M) associated with the embryonic capsule were proteolytically converted to smaller forms during the fixation period. These conversions were simil...
Complementary DNA cloning, functional expression and characterization of a novel cytochrome P450, CYP2D50, from equine liver.
Biochemical pharmacology    July 23, 2008   Volume 76, Issue 7 904-911 doi: 10.1016/j.bcp.2008.07.016
DiMaio Knych HK, Stanley SD.Members of the CYP2D family constitute only about 2-4% of total hepatic CYP450s, however, they are responsible for the metabolism of 20-25% of commonly prescribed therapeutic compounds. CYP2D enzymes have been identified in a number of different species. However, vast differences in the metabolic activity of these enzymes have been well documented. In the horse, the presence of a member of the CYP2D family has been suggested from studies with equine liver microsomes, however its presence has not been definitively proven. In this study a cDNA encoding a novel CYP2D enzyme (CYP2D50) was cloned f...
Dynamics of pruning waste and spent horse litter co-composting as determined by chemical parameters.
Bioresource technology    July 22, 2008   Volume 100, Issue 1 497-500 doi: 10.1016/j.biortech.2008.06.005
Benito M, Masaguer A, Moliner A, Hontoria C, Almorox J.Co-composting of pruning waste and horse manure was monitored by different parameters. A windrow composting pile, having the dimensions 2.5m (height) x 30m (length) was established. The maturation of pruning waste and horse manure compost was accompanied by a decline in NH(4)(+)-N concentration, water soluble C and an increase in NO(3)(-)-N content. Organic matter (OM) content during composting followed a first-order kinetic equation. This result was in agreement with the microbiological activity measured by the CO(2) respiration during the process. The correlation at a high level of probabili...
Characterization and quantification of fluoxymesterone metabolite in horse urine by gas chromatography/mass spectrometry.
Analytical sciences : the international journal of the Japan Society for Analytical Chemistry    July 11, 2008   Volume 24, Issue 7 911-914 doi: 10.2116/analsci.24.911
Yamada M, Aramaki S, Hosoe T, Kurosawa M, Kijima-Suda I, Saito K, Nakazawa H.Fluoxymesterone, an anabolic steroid with the 17alpha-methyl,17beta-hydroxy group, has been developed as an oral formulation for therapeutic purposes. However, it is also used illegally in racehorses to enhance racing performance. In this study, we detected 9alpha-fluoro-17,17-dimethyl-18-norandrostane-4,13-dien-11beta-ol-3-one by gas chromatography/mass spectrometry (GC/MS), which has not been reported as a fluoxymesterone metabolite so far in horse. It was synthesized for use as a reference standard, and characterized on the basis of (1)H NMR and (13)C NMR spectra, as well as GC/MS EI mass s...
Intrafollicular Concentrations of Steroid Hormones and PGF2α in Relation to Follicular Development in the Mares during the Breeding Season.
Journal of equine science    July 9, 2008   Volume 19, Issue 2 31-34 doi: 10.1294/jes.19.31
Tsukada T, Kojima AY, Sato K, Moriyoshi M, Koyago M, Sawamukai Y.The concentrations of androstenedione, estradiol-17β, progesterone and PGF2α contained in the follicular fluid produced by the follicles in collected ovaries of mares that have had estrous phase during the breeding season were measured and analyzed the relation between the growth stage of follicles and the hormone levels in the follicular fluid. An ultrasonographic diagnostic instrument was used to measure the diameter of the follicles in order to categorize the follicles into three groups the following: 8 small follicles (from 1.0 to less than1.5 cm), 8 medium follicles (from 1.5 to less th...
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