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Topic:Physiology

The physiology of horses encompasses the study of the biological functions and processes that occur within the equine body. This includes the examination of various systems such as the cardiovascular, respiratory, musculoskeletal, digestive, and nervous systems. Understanding equine physiology is essential for comprehending how horses adapt to different environmental conditions, perform physical activities, and respond to health challenges. Research in this field often focuses on the mechanisms of energy metabolism, thermoregulation, and muscle function during exercise, as well as the physiological responses to stress and disease. This page compiles peer-reviewed research studies and scholarly articles that explore the diverse aspects of equine physiology, providing insights into the biological processes that support the health and performance of horses.
Effect of detraining on cardiorespiratory variables in young thoroughbred horses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 210-213 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05541.x
Mukai K, Ohmura H, Hiraga A, Eto D, Takahashi T, Asai Y, Jones JH.Thoroughbred racehorses often experience interruptions to their training. Identifying the effects of these changes and how they alter athletic performance might provide an insight on to how to prevent these changes from occurring. Objective: Training and detraining young Thoroughbreds alters their aerobic capacities with correlated changes in circulatory capacities; if horses remained spontaneously active in a pasture during their detraining period, their decreases in aerobic capacity during detraining would be reduced. Methods: We trained 6 Thoroughbred yearlings for 6 months using a conventi...
Use of a global positioning and heart rate monitoring system to assess training load in a group of thoroughbred racehorses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 106-109 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05523.x
Kingston JK, Soppet GM, Rogers CW, Firth EC.Training is an important variable for determining athletic success. Nonetheless, there has been minimal scientific evaluation of racehorse training programmes. Training of racehorses focuses on running the horses at certain speeds using a combination of a stopwatch and rider's 'feel' for a horse's work intensity. Consequently, actual work intensity for individual horses is not clearly defined. Objective: To 1) utilise a combined global positioning system (GPS) and heart rate monitor system to quantify training intensity and physiological responses of a group of racehorses undergoing training a...
Haematological and respiratory gas changes in horses and mules exercised at altitude (3800 m).
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 551-556 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05603.x
Greene HM, Hurson MJ, Wickler SJ.Despite the common use of equids as visitors to high altitude mountainous environments, there are a paucity of carefully orchestrated scientific approaches. Further, again as a function of a common perceived advantage of mules over horses in these similar environments there are needs for controlled comparisons between these 2 equids. Objective: To measure haematological and respiratory function in horses and mules at low altitude (225 m), at rest and post exercise. In addition the rate and magnitude of these changes were followed over a 13 day period at high altitude (3800 m) to contrast accli...
Synthesis of proglycogen and macroglycogen in skeletal muscle of standardbred trotters after intermittent exercise.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 335-339 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05564.x
Bröjer J, Holm S, Jonasson R, Hedenström U, Essén-Gustavsson B.The degradation of glycogen and its two forms, proglycogen (PG) and macroglycogen (MG) has been studied in horses performing different types of exercise, but no information is available about the resynthesis of PG and MG after exercise. Objective: To determine the resynthesis of PG and MG in skeletal muscle after intermittent uphill exercise. Methods: At a training camp 9 well-trained Standardbred trotters performed a training session comprising a warm-up period, 7 repeated 500 m bouts of exercise on an uphill slope and a recovery period. Muscle biopsies (m. gluteus medius) for analysis of PG,...
The effect of adrenergic suppression induced by guanabenz administration on exercising thoroughbred horses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 262-266 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05550.x
Colahan PT, Savage KA, Tebbett IR, Rice BL, Jackson CA, Freshwater L.Adrenergic activity accompanies intense exercise and mediates physiological and metabolic responses to exercise. Guanabenz, an antihypertensive drug marketed for human usage, depresses brain vasomotor and cardioaccelerator centres, blocks peripherally adrenergic neurons and is reportedly used as a calming agent in horses but little is known of its effects in the species. Objective: To determine if guanabenz induces measurable signs of adrenergic suppression on fit Thoroughbred horses undergoing intense exercise. Methods: In a random crossover design, 12 exercise conditioned Thoroughbred horses...
The physiological responses to simulated race tests on a track and on a treadmill in standardbred trotters.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 123-127 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05527.x
Nostell K, Funkquist P, Nyman G, Essén-Gustavsson B, Connysson M, Muhonen S, Jansson A.It is unclear to what extent the physiological response to a standardised treadmill exercise test simulating racing conditions resembles the circulatory and metabolic response observed after a simulated race on a track. Objective: To compare the physiological responses of a standardised treadmill exercise test used to simulate racing conditions and a simulated race performed on a track on the same Standardbred trotting horses, all in racing condition. Methods: Six Standardbred trotters in racing condition performed a standardised inclined treadmill exercise test protocol simulating racing cond...
Oral vitamin E supplementation on oxidative stress, vitamin and antioxidant status in intensely exercised horses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 617-621 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05614.x
Williams CA, Carlucci SA.Vitamin E is the most commonly supplemented antioxidant in horses; however, previous research is not conclusive as to the recommended level for exercising horses. Objective: To evaluate the effects of 3 levels of vitamin E supplementation on oxidative stress and vitamin/antioxidant status in intensely exercised horses to determine the optimal level of vitamin E supplementation. Methods: Twelve unfit Standardbreds were divided into 3 groups, supplemented orally with 0 (CON), 5000 (MOD), or 10,000 (HI) iu/day of DL-alpha-tocopheryl acetate. The 3 x 3 Latin square design consisted of three 4 week...
Energetic cost of locomotion on different equine treadmills.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 365-369 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05570.x
Jones JH, Ohmura H, Stanley SD, Hiraga A.Human athletes run faster and experience fewer injuries when running on surfaces with a stiffness 'tuned' to their bodies. We questioned if the same might be true for horses, and if so, would running on surfaces of different stiffness cause a measurable change in the amount of energy required to move at a given speed? Objective: Different brands of commercial treadmills have pans of unequal stiffness, and this difference would result in different metabolic power requirements to locomote at a given speed. Methods: We tested for differences in stiffness between a Mustang 2200 and a Säto I comme...
Route of carbohydrate administration affects early post exercise muscle glycogen storage in horses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 590-595 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05610.x
Geor RJ, Larsen L, Waterfall HL, Stewart-Hunt L, McCutcheon LJ.No studies in horses have examined the effect of route of carbohydrate (glucose) administration on the rate of muscle glycogen storage following glycogen-depleting exercise. Objective: Glucose delivery from the gastrointestinal tract limits the rate of muscle glycogen storage following glycogen-depleting exercise. Methods: In a crossover design, 7 fit horses completed treadmill exercise (EX) on 3 occasions to deplete muscle glycogen by approximately 50%. After EX horses received: 1) i.v. glucose infusion (IV; 0.5 g/kg bwt/h for 6 h), 2) oral glucose boluses (OR; 1 g/kg bwt at 0, 2 and 4 h post...
Racing speeds of quarter horses, thoroughbreds and Arabians.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 128-132 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05528.x
Nielsen BD, Turner KK, Ventura BA, Woodward AD, O'Connor CI.While Quarter Horses are recognised as the fastest breed of horse, direct comparisons to race times with other breeds can be misleading. Quarter Horse races begin when the starting gates open. Thoroughbred and Arabian races begin a short distance from the gates after horses have started running. This study compared speeds of these breeds as they accelerate from the starting gates and during the middle and end of races. Objective: To compare racing speeds of the 3 breeds, and to compare speeds during various segments of the races. Methods: Video tapes of races were obtained from a local track. ...
Effects of oral electrolyte supplementation on endurance horses competing in 80 km rides.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 19-26 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05507.x
Sampieri F, Schott HC, Hinchcliff KW, Geor RJ, Jose-Cunilleras E.There is no evidence that use of oral electrolyte pastes enhances performance in competing endurance horses. Objective: To ascertain whether oral administration of a high dose (HD) of sodium chloride (NaCl) and potassium chloride (KCl) to endurance horses would differentially increase water intake, attenuate bodyweight (bwt) loss and improve performance when compared to a low dose (LD). Methods: A randomised, blinded, crossover study was conducted on 8 horses participating in two 80 km rides (same course, 28 days apart). Thirty minutes before and at 40 km of the first ride 4, horses received o...
Exercise and pharmacological stress echocardiography in healthy horses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 159-162 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05533.x
Sandersen C, Detilleux J, Art T, Amory H.Stress echocardiography could be a useful diagnostic test in horses suspected to suffer from exercise-induced myocardial dysfunction as a cause of exercise intolerance. Objective: To evaluate the effect of treadmill exercise and pharmacological stress test on left ventricular echocardiographic parameters. Methods: Echocardiography was performed in 2 groups of 5 healthy horses, either immediately after a near-maximal treadmill exercise (Group EXE) or during a pharmacological challenge (Group DOB) consisting of 35 microg/kg atropine, followed by incremental dobutamine infusion rates of 2-6 micro...
Interval exercise alters feed intake as well as leptin and ghrelin concentrations in standardbred mares.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 596-605 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05611.x
Gordon ME, McKeever KH, Bokman S, Betros CL, Manso-Filho H, Liburt N, Streltsova J.Horses in training tend to become inappetant; however, the mechanism responsible for this training-induced inappetance is not known. Objective: Training and/or ulcers alter the feed intake (FI) and hormonal and/or biochemical (active ghrelin, leptin, glucose, insulin and cortisol) responses to acute high intensity exercise. Methods: Eight Standardbred mares underwent 3 interval exercise tests (IET) and 3 parallel control tests (CON) before (IET1) and after 8 weeks of training (IET2) and after treatment for gastric ulcers (IET3). Plasma samples were taken before (0 min), during (last 10 sec of ...
Thyroid hormone responses to endurance exercise.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 32-36 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05509.x
Graves EA, Schott HC, Marteniuk JV, Refsal KR, Nachreiner RF.Limited information exists about changes in circulating thyroid hormone concentrations during prolonged endurance exercise in horses. Objective: To examine the effects of prolonged exercise on serum iodothyronine concentrations in horses performing endurance exercise of varying distances. Methods: Serum concentrations of iodothyronines were measured in horses before and after completion of 40, 56, 80 and 160 km endurance rides (Study 1); daily during a 5 day, 424 km endurance ride (Study 2); and before and for 72 h after completion of a treadmill exercise test simulating a 60 km endurance ride...
Glucose dynamics during exercise: dietary energy sources affect minimal model parameters in trained Arabian geldings during endurance exercise.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 631-636 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05617.x
Treiber KH, Hess TM, Kronfeld DS, Boston RC, Geor RJ, Friere M, Silva AM, Harris PA.Glucose regulation is critical for health and exercise performance. Objective: To quantify the effects of exercise and diet on insulin sensitivity (SI), glucose effectiveness (Sg), acute insulin response to glucose (AIRg) and disposition index (DI) in horses. Methods: This study applied the minimal model of glucose and insulin dynamics to exercise-trained Arabian geldings during rest or constant moderate-intensity exercise after 8 weeks adaptation to feeds high in sugar and starch (SS, n = 6) or fat and fibre (FF, n = 6). Horses underwent 2 frequently sampled i.v. glucose tolerance tests (FSIG...
Frusemide results in an extracellular to intracellular fluid shift in horses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 245-253 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05547.x
Forro M, Lindinger MI.Frusemide (Lasix) is commonly used diuretic in horse racing and equine clinical practice. While pharmacology, pharmacodynamics, renal and haematological effects of frusemide have been studied in horses, its effects on the distribution of fluid within the horse remain unknown. Objective: To quantify the effects of frusemide on extracellular and intracellular fluid shifts. Methods: Horses were infused with 1 mg/kg body mass (n = 7) or 2 mg/kg (n = 9) i.v. frusemide. Total body water (TBW), extracellular fluid volume (ECFV) and plasma volume (PV) were measured using D2O, NaSCN and Evans blue dilu...
Effect of amino acid and glucose administration following exercise on the turnover of muscle protein in the hindlimb femoral region of thoroughbreds.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 611-616 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05613.x
Matsui A, Ohmura H, Asai Y, Takahashi T, Hiraga A, Okamura K, Tokimura H, Sugino T, Obitsu T, Taniguchi K.In man, muscle protein synthesis is accelerated by administering amino acids (AA) and glucose (Glu), because increased availability of amino acids and increased insulin secretion, is known to have a protein anabolic effect. However, in the horse, the effect on muscle hypertrophy of such nutrition management following exercise is unknown. Objective: To determine the effect of AA and Glu administration following exercise on muscle protein turnover in horses. We hypothesise that administration of AA and Glu after exercise effects muscle hypertrophy in horses, as already shown in man and other ani...
Recruitment pattern of muscle fibre type during flat and sloped treadmill running in thoroughbred horses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 349-353 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05567.x
Eto D, Yamano S, Hiraga A, Miyata H.There is little information about the muscle fibre recruitment pattern during sloped and flat track running in Thoroughbred horses. Objective: To examine the glycogen depletion pattern of each muscle fibre type during running on a flat and sloped treadmill. Methods: Thirteen Thoroughbred horses (3-9 years old) were used. They were initially subjected to incremental exercise tests on a treadmill at 10 and 0% inclines in each horse to determine running speed at 90 and 60% VO2max. Needle biopsy samples were obtained from the middle gluteal muscle immediately after the running at 90% VO2max for 4 ...
Heart rate responses during acclimation of horses to water treadmill exercise.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 110-112 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05524.x
Nankervis KJ, Williams RJ.The use of water treadmill exercise in horses is popular, although little is known about the physiological responses to this form of exercise. No information exists regarding the time taken to acclimate to water treadmill exercise compared to that of high-speed treadmill exercise, for both physiological and biomechanical parameters. Objective: To determine heart rate responses during acclimation to water treadmill exercise with and without sedation on first time exposure. Methods: All horses were exercised on a water treadmill at the walk for 15 min once a day for 4 days. Fourteen horses (mean...
Effects of a pre-moistened multilayered breathable fabric in promoting heat loss during recovery after exercise under hot conditions.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 303-307 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05558.x
Foreman JH, Benson GJ, Foreman MH.Horses generate considerable internal heat burdens when exercising. Although common practice for a trainer or groom to place a wet blanket or towel on the dorsum of a hot horse post exercise, there are no data supporting the efficacy of this cooling method. Objective: To test the hypothesis that a pre-moistened blanket designed with a multilayered breathable fabric would enhance heat loss in horses post exercise. Methods: Eight treadmill-trained horses performed a standardised exercise test (SET) weekly for 3 weeks, with 3 different recovery treatments administered randomly. Pulmonary artery t...
Observations on respiratory flow strategies during and after intense treadmill exercise to fatigue in thoroughbred racehorses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 567-572 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05606.x
Curtis RA, Kusano K, Evans DL.Locomotor-respiratory coupled (LRC) breath types are a feature of galloping exercise in horses. Differences in breath type have been demonstrated during exercise in particular the 'big respiratory cycle' (BRC) and 'flow hesitation'. To investigate breath types during recovery and quantitatively investigate BRCs during exercise to understanding the mechanism driving BRCs. Objective: To investigate the occurrence of different breath types during and after intense treadmill exercise, and test the hypothesis that large breaths (BRCs) were a function of respiratory frequency. Methods: Six trained a...
MCT1 and CD147 gene polymorphisms in standardbred horses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 322-325 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05561.x
Reeben M, Koho NM, Raekallio M, Hyyppä S, Pösö AR.Transport of lactate across membranes is facilitated by proton-monocarboxylate transporters (MCT). The most widely distributed isoform is MCT1, which needs an ancillary protein CD147. Studies on erythrocytes have shown that high activity of MCT1 is inherited as the dominant allele and that activity is regulated through CD147. Mutations of human MCT1 have been described that appear to impair lactate transport in muscles and cause exertional rhabdomyolysis. There are no reports of this potential relationship in the horse. Objective: To obtain sequences of equine MCT1 and CD147 to examine differe...
Optimal active recovery intensity in standardbreds after submaximal work.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 102-105 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05522.x
Dahl S, Cotrel C, Leleu C.A retrospective study concerning spontaneous active recovery intensity, i.e. at a freely chosen speed, after a submaximal exercise in trotters showed that the mean intensity demanded by trainers corresponds to 40-50% of maximal heart rate (max HR; unpublished data). However, in human athletes, optimal active recovery intensity was found to be about 60-70% of max HR. Is the spontaneous recovery optimal after a submaximal exercise in trotters? Objective: To compare different recovery intensities and define the most efficient one. Methods: Thirty-seven trotters performed a standardised exercise t...
Validation of a portable equine metabolic measurement system.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 557-561 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05604.x
Art T, Duvivier DH, van Erck E, de Moffarts B, Votion D, Bedoret D, Lejeune JP, Lekeux P, Serteyn D.In equine sports medicine, VO2 has been measured exclusively with stationary systems, in laboratories equipped with a treadmill. Measurement during exercise in field conditions has not previously been reported because of the lack of portable equipment designed for horses. Objective: A commercially available portable metabolic measurement system, based on breath-to-breath gas analysis and flow spirometry, was adapted to the horse's physiology and morphology (Cosmed K4b2 and Equimask) and its validity tested by (1) repeatability of the measures and (2) comparing metabolic data to those obtained ...
Muscle, tendon, and somatotropin responses to the restriction of muscle blood flow induced by KAATSU-walk training.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 345-348 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05566.x
Abe T, Kearns CF, Manso Filho HC, Sato Y, McKeever KH.The efficacy of KAATSU training has been demonstrated in human athletes, both as a therapeutic method as well as a training aid. The purpose of this study was to investigate the effects of slow walk training combined with restriction of muscle blood flow (KAATSU) on muscle and tendon size. Methods: Six healthy, unfit Standardbred mares performed walking (240 m/min for 10 min and then 5 min recovery) with KAATSU, and 6 mares performed walking without KAATSU. A specially designed elastic cuff1 was placed at the most proximal position of the forelegs and inflated to a pressure of 200-230 mmHg thr...
Gene expression profiling in equine muscle tissues using mouse cDNA microarrays.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 359-364 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05569.x
Mucher E, Jayr L, Rossignol F, Amiot F, Gidrol X, Barrey E.Progress could be achieved by using microarrays to understand metabolic adaptations and disorders in equine muscle in response to exercise. Objective: To test the feasibility of using mouse cDNA microarrays to analyse gene expression profile in normal equine muscles. Methods: Muscular biopsies of dorsal gluteus medius and longissimus lumborum were done in 4 healthy Standardbreds. Total RNA was extracted from the muscle samples. The concentration and quality of RNA were measured before and after amplification. Gene expression profiles were measured using mouse cDNA microarrays including 15,264 ...
Gene expression profiling in blood cells of endurance horses completing competition or disqualified due to metabolic disorder.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 43-49 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05511.x
Barrey E, Mucher E, Robert C, Amiot F, Gidrol X.Genomics using cDNA microarrays could provide useful information about physiological adaptations and metabolic disorders in endurance horses. Objective: In order to show that genes are modulated in leucocytes in relationship with performance and clinical status of the horses, gene expression in leucocytes, haematological and biochemical parameters were compared between successful and disqualified endurance horses. Methods: Blood samples were collected at rest (TO) and just after a 140-160 km endurance race (T1) in 2 groups of horses: 10 continuing successful (S) and 10 disqualified horses stop...
Method for quantifying net anaerobic power in exercising horses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 370-373 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05571.x
Ohmura H, Hiraga A, Jones JH.There is no good method for measuring net anaerobic power in exercising horses to allow accurate estimates of total metabolic power. Objective: The increase in VO2max when breathing hyperoxic (HO) gas should be accompanied by a stoichiometrically equal (in terms of ATP turnover, i.e. energy equivalents) decrease in plasma lactate accumulation rate (Mlactate). Methods: Six 3-year-old Thoroughbreds were trained on an equine treadmill wearing a semi-open flow mask for measurement of VO2. After 4 months the horses ran with reproducible specific VO2max (VO2max/kg bwt). The mask design allowed mixin...
Effect of omeprazole on markers of performance in gastric ulcer-free standardbred horses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 668-671 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05624.x
McKeever JM, McKeever KH, Albeirci JM, Gordon ME, Manso Filho HC.A large percentage of performance horses develop gastric ulcers and many of those horses are treated with omeprazole. Unfortunately, no data have been published on the effects of the drug on markers of performance in animals without ulcers. Objective: Omeprazole would alter markers of aerobic and anaerobic performance. Methods: Ten unfit, healthy, ulcer free, Standardbred mares were administered either control (CON; oral apple sauce, 20 ml) or omeprazole (OP; oral paste, 4 mg/kg bwt s.i.d.) in a random crossover fashion with the investigators blind to the treatment. Treatments were administere...
Plasma beta-endorphin, cortisol and immune responses to acute exercise are altered by age and exercise training in horses.
Equine veterinary journal. Supplement    April 4, 2007   Issue 36 267-273 doi: 10.1111/j.2042-3306.2006.tb05551.x
Malinowski K, Shock EJ, Rochelle P, Kearns CF, Guirnalda PD, McKeever KH.Ageing appears to affect immune and neuroendocirne function in horses and response to acute exercise. No studies have examined the combined effects of training and ageing on immune and neuroendocirne function in horses. Objective: To ascertain whether training and age would affect the plasma beta-endorphin (BE) and cortisol (C) as well as immune function responses to acute exercise in Standardbred mares. Methods: Graded exercise tests (GXT) and simulated race tests (SRT) were performed before and after 12 weeks training at 60 % HRmax. BE and C were measured at rest and at 5, 10, 20, 40, 60 and...