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Comparative studies in equine research involve the systematic analysis of different horse breeds, management practices, or physiological responses to identify variations and similarities. These studies are instrumental in understanding how different factors influence health, performance, and behavior in horses. Common areas of comparison include genetic traits, nutritional requirements, disease resistance, and response to training. By evaluating these differences, researchers can develop targeted strategies for breeding, healthcare, and training. This page aggregates peer-reviewed research studies and scholarly articles that focus on the methodologies, findings, and implications of comparative studies in the context of equine science.
Gene expression markers of tendon fibroblasts in normal and diseased tissue compared to monolayer and three dimensional culture systems.
BMC musculoskeletal disorders    February 26, 2009   Volume 10 27 doi: 10.1186/1471-2474-10-27
Taylor SE, Vaughan-Thomas A, Clements DN, Pinchbeck G, Macrory LC, Smith RK, Clegg PD.There is a paucity of data regarding molecular markers that identify the phenotype of the tendon cell. This study aims to quantify gene expression markers that distinguish between tendon fibroblasts and other mesenchymal cells which may be used to investigate tenogenesis. Methods: Expression levels for 12 genes representative of musculoskeletal tissues, including the proposed tendon progenitor marker scleraxis, relative to validated reference genes, were evaluated in matched samples of equine tendon (harvested from the superficial digital flexor tendon), cartilage and bone using quantitative P...
Thyreotropic effect of human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG) in mares at estrus.
Immunopharmacology and immunotoxicology    February 25, 2009   Volume 31, Issue 2 299-303 doi: 10.1080/08923970802668500
Rizzo A, Mutinati M, Spedicato M, Minoia G, Trisolini C, Punzi S, Roscino MT, Jirillo F, Sciorsci R.The beta-subunits of thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) and human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) share a high homology, just like the ectodomains of their receptors, do. As a consequence, hCG was shown to exert a thyrotropic action in humans and hamsters. This study aimed to investigate whether hCG, used to induce ovulation, displays a thyrotropic effect in the equine species too. Forty mares at estrus were divided in two groups; 20 were intravenously treated with sterile saline solution (NaCl 0.9%) (group A); 20 were intravenously treated with 4000 I.U. of hCG (group B). All the mares were artif...
Equine cytochrome P450 2C92: cDNA cloning, expression and initial characterization.
Archives of biochemistry and biophysics    February 24, 2009   Volume 485, Issue 1 49-55 doi: 10.1016/j.abb.2009.02.009
DiMaio Knych HK, DeStefano Shields C, Buckpitt AR, Stanley SD.Substantial gaps exist in our knowledge of the metabolic clearance of therapeutic agents in horses. Accordingly, a cytochrome P450 monooxygenase in the 2C family was cloned from an equine liver, sequenced and expressed in a baculovirus expression system. Catalytic activities of the recombinant protein were measured with a number of substrates. The protein, assigned CYP2C92, displayed optimal catalytic activity with diclofenac using molar ratios of CYP2C92 to NADPH CYP450 reductase of 1:18. Addition of cytochrome b(5) to diclofenac incubations had no significant effect on metabolic turnover. CY...
[Comparison of proviral genomes between the Chinese EIAV donkey leukocyte-attenuated vaccine and its parental virulent strain].
Bing du xue bao = Chinese journal of virology    February 21, 2009   Volume 24, Issue 6 443-450 
Wang XF, Jiang CG, Guo W, Xiang W, Lv XL, Zhao LP, Wang FL, Kong XG, Zhang XY, Shao YM, Zhou JH.The donkey leukocyte-attenuated vaccine of equine infectious anemia virus (EIAV) was the first lentiviral vaccine that induced solid protection from the infection of virulent strains. To elucidate the mechanism of increased immunogenicity and attenuated virulence of the vaccine, the proviral genomic DNA of an EIAV vaccine strain, EIAV(DLV121) was analyzed and compared with the genome of a parental virulent strain EIAV(DV117). Full length viral genomic DNAs were amplified as two segments by LA-PCR and were cloned. Because of the genomic diversity of retroviral quasispecies, 10 full-length seque...
Questionnaire assessment of airway disease symptoms in equine barn personnel.
Occupational medicine (Oxford, England)    February 17, 2009   Volume 59, Issue 4 220-225 doi: 10.1093/occmed/kqp003
Mazan MR, Svatek J, Maranda L, Christiani D, Ghio A, Nadeau J, Hoffman AM.People working in cattle, swine and poultry barns have a higher prevalence of respiratory symptoms and decreased lung function. There is scant evidence regarding the respiratory health of humans working in horse barns, although it is well documented that stabled horses have a high prevalence of airway disease. Objective: To determine whether people spending time in horse barns have a higher prevalence of self-reported respiratory symptoms than non-exposed controls. Methods: A cross-sectional questionnaire study was conducted from May 2005 to January 2006 to investigate the prevalence of self-r...
Development of an intra-lamellar microdialysis method for laminitis investigations in horses.
Veterinary journal (London, England : 1997)    February 14, 2009   Volume 183, Issue 1 22-26 doi: 10.1016/j.tvjl.2009.01.003
Nourian AR, Mills PC, Pollitt CC.Microdialysis (MD) was used for continuous monitoring of the lamellar extracellular fluid (ECF) in six mature healthy Standardbred horses. MD probes were introduced into the lamellar tissue under local anaesthesia. Following intravenous injection of gentamicin (5mg/kg), MD and serum samples were collected for 24h and analysed using a sensitive ELISA test for gentamicin and fluorescence polarization immunoassay for urea concentrations. Calibration of probes was performed through in vivo urea recovery and in vitro gentamicin and urea recovery. Data obtained from different body compartments were ...
Identification of protein tyrosine phosphatases and dual-specificity phosphatases in mammalian spermatozoa and their role in sperm motility and protein tyrosine phosphorylation.
Biology of reproduction    February 11, 2009   Volume 80, Issue 6 1239-1252 doi: 10.1095/biolreprod.108.073486
González-Fernández L, Ortega-Ferrusola C, Macias-Garcia B, Salido GM, Peña FJ, Tapia JA.Protein tyrosine kinases have important roles in spermatozoa; however, little is known about the presence and regulation in these cells of their counterparts in signaling, namely, protein tyrosine phosphatases (PTPs) and dual-specificity phosphatases (DSPs). The objectives of the present study were to identify PTPs and DSPs in boar, stallion, and dog spermatozoa; to characterize their subcellular distribution; and to investigate the roles of tyrosine phosphatases in maintenance of protein tyrosine phosphorylation level and in sperm motility. Using Western blotting with specific antibodies in b...
Parental genomes mix in mule and human cell nuclei.
Chromosoma    February 7, 2009   Volume 118, Issue 3 335-347 doi: 10.1007/s00412-008-0200-6
Hepperger C, Mayer A, Merz J, Vanderwall DK, Dietzel S.Whether chromosome sets inherited from father and mother occupy separate spaces in the cell nucleus is a question first asked over 110 years ago. Recently, the nuclear organization of the genome has come increasingly into focus as an important level of epigenetic regulation. In this context, it is indispensable to know whether or not parental genomes are spatially separated. Genome separation had been demonstrated for plant hybrids and for the early mammalian embryo. Conclusive studies for somatic mammalian cell nuclei are lacking because homologous chromosomes from the two parents cannot be d...
Calcium regulating hormones and serum calcium and magnesium concentrations in septic and critically ill foals and their association with survival.
Journal of veterinary internal medicine    February 4, 2009   Volume 23, Issue 2 335-343 doi: 10.1111/j.1939-1676.2009.0275.x
Hurcombe SD, Toribio RE, Slovis NM, Saville WJ, Mudge MC, Macgillivray K, Frazer ML.Disorders of calcium regulation are frequently found in humans with critical illness, yet limited information exists in foals with similar conditions including septicemia. The purpose of this study was to determine whether disorders of calcium exist in septic foals, and to determine any association with survival. Objective: Blood concentrations of ionized calcium (Ca(2+)) and magnesium (Mg(2+)) will be lower in septic foals with concomitant increases in parathyroid hormone (PTH), calcitonin (CT), and parathyroid-related peptide (PTHrP) compared with healthy foals. The magnitude of these differ...
Early conception factor lateral flow assays for pregnancy in the mare.
Theriogenology    January 30, 2009   Volume 71, Issue 6 877-883 doi: 10.1016/j.theriogenology.2008.06.003
Marino E, Threlfall WR, Schwarze RA.The ECF lateral flow assay test is marketed to detect non-pregnancy in mares. The objectives of the present study were to determine the accuracy of the ECF test, the accuracy of the electronic reader accompanying the ECF test, and agreement between two human readers and the electronic reader. Serum samples were collected from anestrus, cycling but not inseminated, and inseminated mares, and were evaluated with the ECF test (EDP Biotech Company, Knoxville, TN, USA) at The Ohio State University and at the EDP Biotech Laboratory. Specificity ranged from 0.07 to 0.16, the negative predictive value...
Thyroid function in anhidrotic horses.
Journal of veterinary internal medicine    January 30, 2009   Volume 23, Issue 1 168-173 doi: 10.1111/j.1939-1676.2008.0217.x
Breuhaus BA.This study was performed to determine whether anhidrotic horses have altered thyroid function compared with horses that sweat normally. Objective: Anhidrotic horses have normal thyroid function. Methods: Ten client-owned horses with clinical signs of anhidrosis were paired with 10 horses living in the same environment that had normal sweat production. Methods: Horses were diagnosed as having normal sweat production or being anhidrotic based on responses to intradermal injections of terbutaline and physiologic responses to lunging exercise. Control horses were selected from the same environment...
Effects of previous control programmes on the proportion of horses shedding small numbers of strongyle-type eggs.
The Veterinary record    January 27, 2009   Volume 164, Issue 4 108-111 doi: 10.1136/vr.164.4.108
Lloyd S.Between 30 and 70 per cent of horses at 18 stables had their anthelmintic treatments withdrawn for a year. Three of the stables (group 1) had used no anthelmintics for many years, 10 (group 2) had treated their horses with anthelmintics approximately twice a year, and five (group 3) had used anthelmintics five to seven times a year. A total of 1068 samples of faeces were collected from the 267 untreated horses and faecal egg counts were carried out four times during the year. Overall 50.2 per cent of the samples contained less than 200 epg. When the four counts from individual horses were coll...
Diagnostic accuracy of digital photography and image analysis for the measurement of foot conformation in the horse.
Equine veterinary journal    January 24, 2009   Volume 40, Issue 7 623-628 doi: 10.2746/042516408x313625
White JM, Mellor DJ, Duz M, Lischer CJ, Voute LC.Rigorous evaluation of practicable methods for the objective assessment of foot conformation has not been performed. Objective: To assess the practicability, precision and accuracy of the process of obtaining measurements of horses' feet using photography and image processing software. Methods: Precision study: Lateral photographs of horses' feet were obtained twice by 2 veterinary surgeons (image acquisition - IAc). Photographs were analysed by 2 masked veterinary surgeons on 2 occasions (image analysis - IAn). Measurements were compared within and between operators for self and non-self acqu...
Influence of time of day on body temperature, heart rate, arterial pressure, and other biological variables in horses during incremental exercise.
Chronobiology international    January 15, 2009   Volume 26, Issue 1 47-60 doi: 10.1080/07420520802689772
Piccione G, Giannetto C, Assenza A, Casella S, Caola G.We examined the response to exercise of selected physiological variables in horses performing the identical routine for eight days, in the morning (a.m.) or in the afternoon (p.m.). Heart rate (HR), systolic and diastolic blood pressure (BP), and body temperature (BT) were all consistently greater in the p.m. For BP and BT, the absolute increase above the a.m. values was the same at rest and during exercise. For HR, the absolute increase was greater during exercise, but the percent increase was the same as during rest. During exercise, blood glucose decreased, while blood lactate and skin temp...
Quantitative and qualitative evaluation of dermal elastin of draught horses with chronic progressive lymphoedema.
Journal of comparative pathology    January 14, 2009   Volume 140, Issue 2-3 132-139 doi: 10.1016/j.jcpa.2008.10.009
De Cock HE, Van Brantegem L, Affolter VK, Oosterlinck M, Ferraro GL, Ducatelle R.Chronic progressive lymphoedema (CPL) in horses, a disease of certain draught breeds, is associated with altered elastin metabolism. The characteristic lesions are seen in the skin of the lower (distal) limbs. This study was based on horses of susceptible breeds, with and without CPL, and on horses of a non-susceptible breed. Skin samples were obtained for examination from the neck (considered a non-affected region) and from the distal limb. The skin lesions were characterized histologically and the dermal elastic fibres were evaluated morphologically and quantitatively. In all horses the mean...
Biomechanical comparison of six suture configurations using a large diameter polyester prosthesis in the muscular process of the equine arytenoid cartilage.
Veterinary surgery : VS    January 13, 2009   Volume 37, Issue 6 580-587 doi: 10.1111/j.1532-950X.2008.00423.x
Kelly JR, Carmalt J, Hendrick S, Wilson DG, Shoemaker R.To compare biomechanical properties of 6 suture configurations using a large diameter polyester prosthesis in the muscular process (MP) of the arytenoid cartilage and to determine failure mode. Methods: Experimental study. Methods: Cadaveric equine larynges (n=121). Methods: Suture configurations (4 single, 2 double) were inserted, and then constructs were tested in a single-cycle to failure at a 100 mm/min distraction. Load deformation curves were generated to assess the biomechanical properties of each construct. A 1-way ANOVA was used to compare the mean differences in construct failure for...
Mineral absorption in tapirs (Tapirus spp.) as compared to the domestic horse.
Journal of animal physiology and animal nutrition    January 13, 2009   Volume 93, Issue 6 768-776 doi: 10.1111/j.1439-0396.2008.00865.x
Clauss M, Lang-Deuerling S, Kienzle E, Medici EP, Hummel J.To test whether mineral recommendations for horses are likely to guarantee adequate mineral provision for tapirs (Tapirus spp.), we investigated the apparent absorption (aA) of macro and micro-minerals in 18 tapirs from five zoological institutions in a total of 24 feeding trials with total faecal collection. Samples of feeds and faeces were analysed for Ca, P, Mg, Na, K, Fe, Cu and Zn. The resulting aA coefficients and the linear relationships of apparently absorbable dietary mineral content to total dietary mineral content (per 100 g dry matter) were compared with data for domestic horses. W...
Acceleration of second and fourth metatarsal fracture healing with recombinant human bone morphogenetic protein-2/calcium phosphate cement in horses.
Veterinary surgery : VS    January 13, 2009   Volume 37, Issue 7 648-655 doi: 10.1111/j.1532-950X.2008.00431.x
Perrier M, Lu Y, Nemke B, Kobayashi H, Peterson A, Markel M.To compare the efficacy of recombinant human bone morphogenetic protein-2 (rhBMP-2)/calcium phosphate (CP) to autogenous cancellous bone graft (CBG) and to no treatment on bone healing, in surgically induced osteotomies and ostectomies of the accessory metatarsal bones in an equine model. Methods: Experimental. Methods: Adult horses (n=9). Methods: Segmental ostectomies of the second metatarsal bone (MT2) and osteotomies of the fourth metatarsal bone (MT4) were performed bilaterally in 9 horses. There were a total of 35 defects (1 MT4 was previously fractured) created and supplemented randomly...
Effect of head position on radiographic assessment of laryngeal tie-forward procedure in horses.
Veterinary surgery : VS    January 13, 2009   Volume 37, Issue 7 608-612 doi: 10.1111/j.1532-950X.2008.00425.x
McCluskie LK, Franklin SH, Lane JG, Tremaine WH, Allen KJ.To assess the effect of head position on relative position of the larynx and hyoid apparatus in horses with palatal dysfunction, and to define a standard position for radiographic assessment of laryngeal tie-forward. Methods: Prospective clinical study. Methods: Adult horses (n=9) with palatal dysfunction. Methods: Left lateral radiographs of the larynx were obtained pre and postoperatively for 3 different head positions (flexed=90 degrees ; neutral=100 degrees ; extended=115 degrees ). Distance between thyrohyoid bone and thyroid cartilage was measured. Data were analyzed to investigate diffe...
Ovulation, pregnancy rate and early embryonic development in vernal transitional mares treated with equine- or porcine-FSH.
Reproduction in domestic animals = Zuchthygiene    January 8, 2009   Volume 45, Issue 2 287-294 doi: 10.1111/j.1439-0531.2008.01296.x
Raz T, Amorim MD, Stover BC, Card CE.The objective of this study was to compare the efficacy of purified equine- and porcine-FSH treatment regimes in mares in early vernal transition. Mares (n = 22) kept under ambient light were examined ultrasonographically per-rectum, starting January 30th. They were assigned to one of two treatment groups using a sequential alternating treatment design when a follicle >or= 25 mm was detected. In the eFSH group, mares were treated twice daily with equine-FSH, and in the pFSH group mares were treated twice daily with porcine-FSH; treatments were continued until follicle(s) >or= 35 mm, and ...
Differential place and response learning in horses displaying an oral stereotypy.
Behavioural brain research    January 8, 2009   Volume 200, Issue 1 100-105 doi: 10.1016/j.bbr.2008.12.033
Parker M, McBride SD, Redhead ES, Goodwin D.Significant similarities exist between the neural and behavioural features of environmentally and drug-induced stereotypy. For example, exposure to dopamine agonists, such as amphetamine, induces stereotypy and causes alterations in midbrain neurophysiology similar to those observed following chronic stress. An additional behavioural feature of these neural changes in the drug-induced phenotype is an enhanced rate of switching from response-outcome (R-O) to stimulus-response (S-R) learning. The aim of the current experiment was to examine R-O and S-R learning in horses displaying environmental...
Protein expression profile of Gasterophilus intestinalis larvae causing horse gastric myiasis and characterization of horse immune reaction.
Parasites & vectors    January 8, 2009   Volume 2, Issue 1 6 doi: 10.1186/1756-3305-2-6
Roelfstra L, Deeg CA, Hauck SM, Buse C, Membrez M, Betschart B, Pfister K.Little information is available on the immunological aspect of parasitic Gasterophilus intestinalis (Diptera, Oestridae) larvae causing horse gastric myiasis. The objectives of this research were to analyze the protein content of larval crude extracts of the migrating second and third larvae (L2 and L3) of G. intestinalis in order to characterize the immune response of horses. Results: The proteomic profile of L2 and L3, investigated by using one and two dimensional approaches, revealed a migration pattern specific to each larval stage. Furthermore, Western blots were performed with horse sera...
A comparison of epidural buprenorphine plus detomidine with morphine plus detomidine in horses undergoing bilateral stifle arthroscopy.
Veterinary anaesthesia and analgesia    January 6, 2009   Volume 36, Issue 1 67-76 doi: 10.1111/j.1467-2995.2008.00422.x
Fischer BL, Ludders JW, Asakawa M, Fortier LA, Fubini SL, Nixon AJ, Radcliffe RM, Erb HN.To compare the analgesic efficacy of buprenorphine plus detomidine with that of morphine plus detomidine when administered epidurally in horses undergoing bilateral stifle arthroscopy. Methods: Prospective, randomized, blinded clinical trial. Methods: Twelve healthy adult horses participating in an orthopedic research study. Group M (n = 6) received morphine (0.2 mg kg(-1)) and detomidine (0.15 mg kg(-1)) epidurally; group B (n = 6) received buprenorphine (0.005 mg kg(-1)) and detomidine (0.15 mg kg(-1)) epidurally. Methods: Horses received one of two epidural treatments following induction of...
Baseline plasma cortisol and ACTH concentrations and response to low-dose ACTH stimulation testing in ill foals.
Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association    January 6, 2009   Volume 234, Issue 1 126-132 doi: 10.2460/javma.234.1.126
Wong DM, Vo DT, Alcott CJ, Peterson AD, Sponseller BA, Hsu WH.To evaluate baseline plasma cortisol and ACTH concentrations and responses to low-dose ACTH stimulation testing in ill foals. Methods: Cross-sectional study. Methods: 58 ill foals. Methods: Baseline cortisol and ACTH concentrations and cortisol concentrations after administration of a low dose of cosyntropin were determined within 6 hours after admission. Foals were assigned to 4 groups on the basis of age (<or=24 hours vs 1 to 56 days) and presence of septicemia (yes vs no). Values were compared among groups and with values previously reported for healthy foals. Results: Plasma cortisol co...
Evaluation of allele frequencies of inherited disease genes in subgroups of American Quarter Horses.
Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association    January 6, 2009   Volume 234, Issue 1 120-125 doi: 10.2460/javma.234.1.120
Tryon RC, Penedo MC, McCue ME, Valberg SJ, Mickelson JR, Famula TR, Wagner ML, Jackson M, Hamilton MJ, Nooteboom S, Bannasch DL.To estimate allele frequencies of the hyperkalaemic periodic paralysis (HYPP), lethal white foal syndrome (LWFS), glycogen branching enzyme deficiency (GBED), hereditary equine regional dermal asthenia (HERDA), and type 1 polysaccharide storage myopathy (PSSM) genes in elite performance subgroups of American Quarter Horses (AQHs). Methods: Prospective genetic survey. Methods: 651 elite performance AQHs, 200 control AQHs, and 180 control American Paint Horses (APHs). Methods: Elite performance AQHs successful in 7 competitive disciplines (barrel racing, cutting, halter, racing, reining, western...
Comparison of chondrogenic potential in equine mesenchymal stromal cells derived from adipose tissue and bone marrow.
Veterinary surgery : VS    January 6, 2009   Volume 37, Issue 8 713-724 doi: 10.1111/j.1532-950X.2008.00462.x
Vidal MA, Robinson SO, Lopez MJ, Paulsen DB, Borkhsenious O, Johnson JR, Moore RM, Gimble JM.To compare the chondrogenic potential of adult equine mesenchymal stem cells derived from bone marrow (MSCs) or adipose tissue (ASCs). Methods: In vitro experimental study. Methods: Adult Thoroughbred horses (n=11). Methods: BM (5 horses; mean [+/-SD] age, 4+/-1.4 years) or adipose tissue (6 horses; mean age, 3.5+/-1.1 years) samples were obtained. Cryopreserved MSCs and ASCs were used for pellet cultures in stromal medium (C) or induced into chondrogenesis+/-transforming growth factor-3 (TGFbeta(3)) and bone morphogenic factor-6 (BMP-6). Pellets harvested after 3, 7, 14, and 21 days were exam...
Genetic diversity of a large set of horse breeds raised in France assessed by microsatellite polymorphism.
Genetics, selection, evolution : GSE    January 5, 2009   Volume 41, Issue 1 5 doi: 10.1186/1297-9686-41-5
Leroy G, Callède L, Verrier E, Mériaux JC, Ricard A, Danchin-Burge C, Rognon X.The genetic diversity and structure of horses raised in France were investigated using 11 microsatellite markers and 1679 animals belonging to 34 breeds. Between-breed differences explained about ten per cent of the total genetic diversity (Fst = 0.099). Values of expected heterozygosity ranged from 0.43 to 0.79 depending on the breed. According to genetic relationships, multivariate and structure analyses, breeds could be classified into four genetic differentiated groups: warm-blooded, draught, Nordic and pony breeds. Using complementary maximisation of diversity and aggregate diversity appr...
Concepts for the clinical use of stem cells in equine medicine.
The Canadian veterinary journal = La revue veterinaire canadienne    January 3, 2009   Volume 49, Issue 10 1009-1017 
Koch TG, Berg LC, Betts DH.Stem cells from various tissues hold great promise for their therapeutic use in horses, but so far efficacy or proof-of-principle has not been established. The basic characteristics and properties of various equine stem cells remain largely unknown, despite their increasingly widespread experimental and empirical commercial use. A better understanding of equine stem cell biology and concepts is needed in order to develop and evaluate rational clinical applications in the horse. Controlled, well-designed studies of the basic biologic characteristics and properties of these cells are needed to m...
Morphology of the occlusal surface for premolar and molar teeth as an indicator of age in the horse.
Journal of veterinary dentistry    January 1, 2009   Volume 26, Issue 4 210-211 
Scrutchfield WL.No abstract available
Measurement of the Curve of Spee in horses.
Journal of veterinary dentistry    January 1, 2009   Volume 26, Issue 4 216-218 doi: 10.1177/089875640902600408
Huthmann S, Staszyk C, Jacob HG, Rohn K, Gasse H.The Curve of Spee is well known, yet hardly understood in the horse, as there is a striking lack of biometrically related data which could help to explain its biomechanical significance. Older horses display drastic alterations of the Curve of Spee in routine clinical examinations. Since the Curve of Spee is known to be biomechanically related to the masticatory forces in humans, the same may apply to the equine, and masticatory deficits can be expected in the geriatric horse. Quantitative data of the Curve of Spee cannot be obtained directly by means of measurements in the horse's long and na...